tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post6729904935565207479..comments2023-10-17T15:56:22.827+01:00Comments on Velvet Glove, Iron Fist: Number crunchingChristopher Snowdonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-66677989264256049652010-03-06T18:07:39.655+00:002010-03-06T18:07:39.655+00:00Anon wrote, "Amazing. So, without smokers'...Anon wrote, "Amazing. So, without smokers' taxes and pharmaceutical company support, ASH would barely have enough money to run a website and pay for a few leaflets. <br />No question where the source of our ostracism comes from, is there?"<br /><br />It's even worse over here in the U.S. Anon. According to the American Medical Association the individual state governments over here supply "Tobacco Control" with over 800 MILLION dollars annually (The figure they cite on p. 14 at:<br /><br />http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/upload/mm/hod_ibot14_doc.doc<br /><br /> is actually 883 million. It has probably increased since then.)<br /><br />- MJMMichael J. McFaddenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12181949578184965482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-29584740203685818062010-03-05T11:20:56.412+00:002010-03-05T11:20:56.412+00:00In history, there was a similar thing happened onc...In history, there was a similar thing happened once, a long time ago.<br /><br />http://tiomarvo.blogspot.com/2010/03/injustice.htmlUncle Marvohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00146362608723100601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-40268073795150829252010-03-04T10:40:49.492+00:002010-03-04T10:40:49.492+00:00Amazing. So, without smokers' taxes and pharm...Amazing. So, without smokers' taxes and pharmaceutical company support, ASH would barely have enough money to run a website and pay for a few leaflets. <br /><br />No question where the source of our ostracism comes from, is there? Not much "grass-roots" support for a war on a significant minority of the population there. How disgraceful!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-25024412502132208732010-03-04T01:30:06.800+00:002010-03-04T01:30:06.800+00:00What happens if a publican is serving alone one ni...What happens if a publican is serving alone one night in his bar when 100 Hells Angels walk in and proceed to spark up is he supposed to uphold the law and try to stop them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-19221977164742762092010-03-04T01:05:35.706+00:002010-03-04T01:05:35.706+00:00"We are not content with negative obedience, ..."We are not content with negative obedience, nor even with the most abject submission. When finally you surrender to us, it must be of your own free will. We do not destroy the heretic because he resists us; so long as he resists us we never destroy him. We convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him. We burn all evil and all illusion out of him; we bring him over to our side, not in appearance, but genuinely, heart and soul. We make him one of ourselves before we kill him. It is intolerable to us that an erroneous thought should exist anywhere in the world, however secret and powerless it may be. Even in the instance of death we cannot permit any deviation . . . we make the brain perfect before we blow it out."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-24085330059860834342010-03-03T19:32:50.992+00:002010-03-03T19:32:50.992+00:00"As OH says, this means that what you think o..."As OH says, this means that what you think of the smoking ban influences how severely you will be treated."<br /><br />Is that why the smoker who pushed the woman who told him to stop smoking on an outdoor railway platform has been sent down for four years? Not in our fair, just and free society, surely.....<br /><br />Back to Nick Hogan - I don't give a damn what the money's used for, to me it represents the strength of feeling against this hateful government and sends out one of those 'clear messages' they're so fond of. It is also a joy that the appalling ASH can't raise in a year what anti-ASH/HMG can raise in a couple of days soured only by the fact that they only exist because my money - and yours - is used to fund them.<br /><br />JayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-32823014702178611672010-03-03T18:13:10.200+00:002010-03-03T18:13:10.200+00:00that they do not agree with or support the smokefr...that they do not agree with or support the smokefree legislation<br /><br />that they are actively campaigning against it<br /><br />Will an arrest warrant be issued for Nigel Farage as he obviously is guilty of the above 'offence' as are millions of smokers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-43308968601283932952010-03-03T17:30:15.506+00:002010-03-03T17:30:15.506+00:00Report to room 101Report to room 101Old Holbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10164491045068093627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-51689481631661141162010-03-03T16:40:29.117+00:002010-03-03T16:40:29.117+00:00that they do not agree with or support the smokefr...<i>that they do not agree with or support the smokefree legislation</i><br /><br /><i>that they are actively campaigning against it</i><br /><br />I'm not sure how to take these statement. Is a person's disagreement with the legislation to be taken into account in a positive or a negative way by the Court? It fails to clarify the position.Snakeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-4387028681944189752010-03-03T16:21:12.868+00:002010-03-03T16:21:12.868+00:00"that they do not intend to do anything more ..."that they do not intend to do anything more than simply inform people that they should not smoke."<br /><br />What else are they expected to do? <br /><br />Use phyiscal force to remove smokers from the premises? Using force against citiziens is the exclusive right of the executive powers of the government.<br /><br />Denounce smokers? I there an obligation for citiziens to denounce other citiziens? Reminds me of the episodes I heard from my parents about the situation during WWII in the 3rd Reich.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16821473060642204067noreply@blogger.com