tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post5188695798893128880..comments2023-10-17T15:56:22.827+01:00Comments on Velvet Glove, Iron Fist: Towards zeroChristopher Snowdonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-47575190276600153952012-09-02T03:29:31.514+01:002012-09-02T03:29:31.514+01:00''The fraudsters “down under” are already ...''The fraudsters “down under” are already “massaging” the public:''<br /><br />They're past massaging at this point. The WHO has already declared that there is no safe level of alcohol!<br /><br />From: http://www.euro.who.int/en/what-we-publish/information-for-the-media/sections/latest-press-releases/european-region-has-heaviest-drinking-in-the-world<br /><br />''There is no safe level of drinking, and in many societies no difference in the risk for men and women.''<br /><br />IroC.A.G.E.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08720876700472441565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-26726588703767158692012-09-01T10:15:57.556+01:002012-09-01T10:15:57.556+01:00Why should anyone much care about any of the indiv...Why should anyone much care about any of the individual disorders either worsened or ameliorated by alcohol unless you've a significant family history of something that could be made worse (bettered) by alcohol. Otherwise, total mortality really ought to be what matters. Eric Cramptonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15831696523324469713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-47010995120096009672012-09-01T06:56:29.635+01:002012-09-01T06:56:29.635+01:00"...we continue to wait for a study to be pub...<i>"...we continue to wait for a study to be published showing how many people are being "killed" worldwide through teetotalism."</i><br /><br />And there lies the nub of the con being perpetrated globally by the zealots. <br /><br />Were the MSM to publish "researchers have estimated" x thousands of deaths per year from not drinking alcohol, the report would be greeted with the scepticism it deserves, since it is patently nonsense. But when they say those estimated thousands of deaths are as a result of light drinking, or SHS, or whatever, it's taken seriously, despite being as nonsensical as the "not drinking" estimate.<br /><br />It just goes to show how deeply the prohibitionist propaganda has penetrated the MSM, and by extension, the received orthodoxy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-34107510971920360712012-08-31T22:37:42.154+01:002012-08-31T22:37:42.154+01:00Again,since the road for the tobacco has opened,wa...Again,since the road for the tobacco has opened,wait and see the avenue for the alcohol..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-88860871659149276482012-08-31T17:28:25.862+01:002012-08-31T17:28:25.862+01:00Debate 2.0: Should junk food be illegal?
http://o...Debate 2.0: Should junk food be illegal?<br /><br />http://ourworld.unu.edu/en/debate-2-0-should-junk-food-be-illegal/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-74562366192517317572012-08-31T16:25:12.949+01:002012-08-31T16:25:12.949+01:00There was some health condition which, according t...There was some health condition which, according to the Zealots, was costing the NHS enormous amounts of money. Unfortunately, I cannot remember what it was. It wasn't smoking, but it was something similarly general throughout the country. I calculated from the number of cases that the workload of every doctor in the country (were this condition eradicated) would be reduced by one patient per annum (or something similar). Question: How does that reduction in workload translate into cost savings? <br /><br />The other thing which bothers me about statistics and epidemiology is how does a small increase in risk, spread over a whole population crystallise into a single individual 'catching' the disease? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-91324475820889494152012-08-31T13:50:45.192+01:002012-08-31T13:50:45.192+01:00Carl Excellent work you do over at Epiology and if...Carl Excellent work you do over at Epiology and if I ever hit the megamillions your grant desires are answered!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-86270261932352358102012-08-31T13:48:38.527+01:002012-08-31T13:48:38.527+01:00Chris this just sjowed up and is directly related ...Chris this just sjowed up and is directly related to your Simon Chapman prohibition blog:<br /><br />Millennium’ project finds support in Guernsey<br />Aug 31, 2012—Following a proposal put forward in the Australian state of Tasmania that a ban should be imposed on cigarette sales to anyone born after 2000, Guernsey, a British Crown dependency in the English Channel, is set to demonstrate “similarly bold measures”, according to a Guernsey Press story quoting the Guernsey Adolescent Smokefree Project chairman, Alun Williams.<br /><br />Williams said that while there were no plans to impose such a ban, it showed that some jurisdictions had the confidence to take extreme action.<br /><br />‘The proposal in Tasmania is an indicator of the seriousness with which countries across the world are beginning to tackle the tobacco epidemic,” he was quoted as saying.<br /><br />http://tobaccoreporter.com/home.php?id=498&art=6227Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-18852913728179727902012-08-31T13:32:14.518+01:002012-08-31T13:32:14.518+01:00Kudos for the significant figure remark.
We are n...Kudos for the significant figure remark.<br /><br />We are not likely to see the article about how many people teetotaling kills (or better, "lack of adequate access to alcohol"!) come out soon <i>unless we write it!</i>. It would not be too hard. It would be nice to get a small grant from someone to support the effort, though. Carl V Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01919902852457771666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-1192535738136886772012-08-31T10:40:35.405+01:002012-08-31T10:40:35.405+01:00The best advice, the experts will say, is to not d...<i>The best advice, the experts will say, is to not drink at all.</i><br /><br />Way ahead of you, Chris. The fraudsters “down under” are already “massaging” the public:<br /><br /><b>Alcohol as bad for you as asbestos and tobacco</b><br />http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/booze-is-bad-for-you-research-shows/story-fn7x8me2-1226047953969<br /><br /><b>Alcohol linked to more cancers</b><br />http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/9291512/alcohol-linked-to-more-cancers/<br /><br /><b>Quit drinking to cut cancer risk</b><br />http://www.watoday.com.au/lifestyle/wellbeing/quit-drinking-to-cut-cancer-risk-20110501-1e38g.html<br /><br />For example: <i>“Australians should give up drinking alcohol entirely to reduce their risk of getting cancer, the Cancer Council recommended yesterday, in a warning it likened to the dawn of the anti-smoking movement.”</i><br /><br />“Is that a slippery slope?”, I hear you ask. “Anti-smoking” and “tobacco” are routinely referred to as the precedent. But surely it couldn’t be a slippery slope which, according to the Tobacco Control Unintelligentsia (e.g., Crapman), doesn’t exist. It’s obviously all coincidental just like a contraband market just coincidentally pops-up out of thin air following extortionate taxes on tobacco.<br /><br />Here’s another “coincidence”:<br /><i>“The Cancer Council is advising Australians that alcoholic drinks are carcinogenic to humans, with no safe drinking levels”.</i><br /><br />No safe level!! This obviously has nothing to do with no safe level of tobacco smoke, first or second hand.<br /><br />Just a word on “no safe level”. This is one of the earliest formal references to “no safe level” of tobacco smoke. <br /> <br /><b>Working Papers in Support of the 8th World Conference on Tobacco or Health: Building a Tobacco-Free World. March 30 - April 3, 1992 <br />Buenos Aires, Argentina</b><br /><i>The scientific evidence linking ETS to death and disease is clear and overwhelming : There is no safe level of exposure for the carcinogens found in tobacco smoke. Victims of ETS are called involuntary smokers or passive smokers . The only way to protect people from the dangers of ETS is to keep tobacco smoke out of our indoor air . The prevention of involuntary exposure to ETS should be a priority for tobacco control advocates worldwide. (p.79)</i><br />http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/tid/hoc28a99 <br /> <br />Just this one excerpt is loaded with inflammatory trash. Firstly, they’re referring to “clear and overwhelming” evidence nearly a year before the [fraudulent] EPA Report on ETS. Secondly, they’re already referring to “victims” of ETS. Thirdly, they are referring to “involuntary or passive smokers”. For some detail on the inflammatory myth of “passive smoking”, see comments section of<br />http://cfrankdavis.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/doctors-in-name-only/#comments<br /><br />Fourthly, they’re already making the fraudulent claim of “no safe level of exposure for the carcinogens found in tobacco smoke”.<br /><br />But the excerpt above contains an even more fundamental piece of information: <b>BUILDING A TOBACCO-FREE WORLD</b>. That’s clearly a social-engineering (eugenics) intent, very much in keeping with the Godber Blueprint. All of these inflammatory claims about ETS, this concoction, are only a contorted means to the contorted goal of a tobacco-free world.<br /><br />So we can see the effect of a number of agenda-driven frauds. The Chapman Trick manipulates nonsmokers into the belief that secondhand smoke is a cocktail of vaporized poisons such as ant poison, toilet cleaner, embalming fluid, etc. “No safe level” simply accentuates the Chapman Trick. The myth of passive smoking promotes the idea in nonsmokers that SHS exposure is the equivalent of being forced to smoke (like smokers) this cocktail of “poisons” against their will. It’s understandable why there is a subgroup of gullible nonsmokers who react to SHS (even at a hundred yards) as if they are being exposed to a bio-weapon like, say, sarin gas, and demanding “protection”.<br /><br /><br />JohnBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05165051324276559561noreply@blogger.com