tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post494811330164790393..comments2023-10-17T15:56:22.827+01:00Comments on Velvet Glove, Iron Fist: How thick do ASH think we are?Christopher Snowdonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-54499492890710255452011-03-01T05:03:16.787+00:002011-03-01T05:03:16.787+00:00Money talks as usual. In the end all companies and...Money talks as usual. In the end all companies and organisations are run by people, like you or me, and all people have weaknesses, unfortunately. I say we boycott them!<br />__________________________<br /><a href="http://e-cigarette-review.net" rel="nofollow">Electronic Cigarette Reviews</a>Alexa Van Klemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17987264978853913981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-8154718322419406112011-02-21T21:49:28.110+00:002011-02-21T21:49:28.110+00:00Once again it's left to blogs to demonstrate w...Once again it's left to blogs to demonstrate what rubbish gets put out by the dictadura.<br />Well done Chris.David Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-26165233360816774342011-02-21T15:38:13.814+00:002011-02-21T15:38:13.814+00:00Notice they never talk about the number of remaini...Notice they never talk about the number of remaining smokers. That is because thes quitters are either fraudulently declared by those who make money from it, or those who start again after a few weeks.<br />22%, 22%, 22%,............<br /><br />Religion to be entered on census:Smoker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-89959013482266075672011-02-21T10:49:33.546+00:002011-02-21T10:49:33.546+00:00Mr A, I'd also thought of this.I am definitely...Mr A, I'd also thought of this.I am definitely going to put my religion down as smoker. I suggest that we should follow each comment we make online with the phrase,<br />"Religion to be entered on census: Smoker"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-62378341538709025542011-02-21T10:23:25.309+00:002011-02-21T10:23:25.309+00:00There was one (sort of) mention in the press.....
...There was one (sort of) mention in the press.....<br /><br />http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/thousands-of-public-health-experts-could-disappear-201102213562/<br /><br />(Daily Mash, natch). If only......PJAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-67209849103614553962011-02-21T08:17:08.507+00:002011-02-21T08:17:08.507+00:00Good idea. You might consider putting:
“Smoker” – ...Good idea. You might consider putting:<br />“Smoker” – currently under persecution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-32876302233228524042011-02-21T08:02:21.882+00:002011-02-21T08:02:21.882+00:00Sorry for the off-topic post but some fun.
Rememb...Sorry for the off-topic post but some fun.<br /><br />Remember how ten years ago thousands put down their religion as Jedi? Well, we have a new census coming up, so let's put down our religion as "smoker." Tobacco Control are leading an inquisition. Let's just highlight that fact.<br /><br />Whether you want to just deny them the information that they demand from you by force or you just want to raise this issue in public once again and remind them that it is not going away, let's have some fun.<br />Spread the word.<br /><br /><br />http://mr--a.blogspot.com/2011/02/census-2011.htmlMr Ahttp://mr--a.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-11980026690372127832011-02-20T12:00:21.072+00:002011-02-20T12:00:21.072+00:00Great spot Chris. I wonder how much utter garbage ...Great spot Chris. I wonder how much utter garbage Dockrell puts out that most of us never get to see? I suspect quite a lot because we do pay him to produce this junk. <br /><br />I am actually a little disappointed that the mainstream press have not covered this along with your analysis. I can only suppose that they have no interest in exposing Dockrell for the deceitful unprincipled charlatan that he is.<br /><br />Sadly, even if government does see sense and pulls the plug on pressure groups such as ASH, it is highly likely that otherwise respectable charities will step in to fill the financial gap.Chris Oakleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11565704648953031588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-13243676783037773722011-02-19T09:11:51.306+00:002011-02-19T09:11:51.306+00:00No one smokes in Australia anymore. Why?
XenoxNews...No one smokes in Australia anymore. Why?<br />XenoxNews.com - Australia’s only Fair Dinkum Internet Newspaper.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.xenoxnews.com/Editorial/10-years-of-xenoxnewscom-our-editor-declares-his-principals.html" rel="nofollow">10 years of XenoxNews.com</a>Tex Lumbagohttp://www.xenoxnews.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-78406499254695591542011-02-19T03:55:41.394+00:002011-02-19T03:55:41.394+00:00I don't agree with you, Snowdon. Have you seen...I don't agree with you, Snowdon. Have you seen the stuff over at DP's place about the vet who says that we are killing our pets by smoking in their presence? These idiotically nonsensical reports appear too regularly (in the sense of 'organised') for it to be accidental. These ploys have been well known since time immemorial. We have seen the Canadian script, and that is only for the minions. It is reasonable to say that a script exists for the higher echelons as well. <br /><br />"We've got the politicians in out pockets; the general public is terrified; we have mothers on side; now all we need is pet owners and we've cracked it".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-66772640064527405682011-02-19T02:57:47.996+00:002011-02-19T02:57:47.996+00:00Junican,
I think you're over thinking with re...Junican,<br /><br />I think you're over thinking with regards to Dockrell. He's just a cynical little piggy (who can't tell correlation from causation) lobbying for more money for the other little piggies.<br /><br />I spotted the 1 in 15 reference in the DT article but that claim never appears in WHO report itself so I don't know where he got it from.Christopher Snowdonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-56095666856201120972011-02-19T02:19:47.566+00:002011-02-19T02:19:47.566+00:00I remember some forty years or so ago the TSB, for...I remember some forty years or so ago the TSB, for which I worked, putting out a TV advert. In this advert, there were a couple of factual errors. In a meeting of Managers, we were told that these errors were put in deliberately so as to make the ads memorable. The errors would quickly be forgotten while the overall impression of 'good bank' would remain.<br /><br />I cannot help but feel that this 'con trick' still exists, and, indeed, has been expertly developed. <br /><br />Dockrell is not stupid. He knows very well that what he says is nonsense, but by saying it, he attracts our attention. Subliminally, we begin to accept the message which he wants us to accept - GUILT. His numerical claims may be rubbish, but, by talking about them, we subliminally accept that smaller numbers might be true. We do not say that the whole thing is crap!<br /><br />Would I be wrong in saying that all of ASH's (and, ultimately, the WHO’s) statements are calculated to achieve the effect that they want in this way? <br /><br />Let us look at the report by Martin Beckford, Health Correspondent, in the DT today (page 12). He reports on a WHO report. One ‘fact’ that he highlights: ‘...deaths from liver cirrhosis have risen in recent years and that one in 15 men in the country is an alcoholic'. <br /><br />I have drawn attention to The Office of Nat Statistics ‘Causes of Death in 2009’ publication several times, but no one seems to realise how important that document is. It lists some 98 causes (among which there are unlisted variations) and breaks the figures down into age groups in ten year tranches. <br /><br />Here is the URL:<br /><br />http://www.statistics.gov.uk/downloads/theme_population/Table_2_Death_Registrations_Cause.xls<br /><br />The WHO specifically mentioned ‘liver cirrhosis’. Let us look at the ACTUAL FACTS regarding deaths from ‘liver disease’ (not just cirrhosis) in 2009 in England and Wales:<br /><br />Liver disease<br /><br />Up to age 24.........27<br />25-34................208<br />35-44................980 (rounded from now on)<br />45-54................1820<br />55-64................1950<br />65-74................1190<br />75-84................790<br />85 +.................260<br /><br />Total................7330 approx<br /><br />We must remember that the total number of deaths in Eng & Wales in 2009 was just under 500 000. <br /><br />The above FACTS show, in my opinion, that the WHO report is a simple ‘con trick’ which they know cannot be proved to be wrong in detail. The WHO used to be a good organisation which did good work in indentifying serious health problems in the 3rd world and directing aid in those directions. It seems to me to be true that this organisation has been taken over by charlatans and politicians. <br /><br />I read about the Cincinnati town which refused to accept the smoking ban. Their argument was very simple – those townspeople who smoke are just as equal as those who don’t. Proprietors of bars and cafes can decide for themselves. <br /><br />This same argument applies in relation to alcohol. WHO statistics are lying con tricks, but they do not matter one jot anyway. <br /><br />The Smoking and Drinking Community has two arguments which overcome the liars. <br /><br />One, death stats show their lies to be what they are, and<br />Two, what has it got to do with them anyway?<br /><br />Public Health has to do with clean water supply, etc, not the choices of individual citizens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-83908638513008386552011-02-18T23:23:18.957+00:002011-02-18T23:23:18.957+00:00Well spotted!Well spotted!Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-32274935701404473452011-02-18T21:50:30.495+00:002011-02-18T21:50:30.495+00:00How about this one Dick :))How about <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=martin+dockrell&meta=&rlz=1I7ADFA_en#sclient=psy&hl=en&rlz=1I7ADFA_en&q=martin+dockrell+lying+twat&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=d207d86176b7919" rel="nofollow">this one</a> Dick :))Pat Nurse MAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01591807335364002658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-15073379375103752662011-02-18T20:51:20.147+00:002011-02-18T20:51:20.147+00:00Never believe vested interests. Spin doctoring at ...Never believe vested interests. Spin doctoring at It's most amateur. Buffoon.F***W*T TW****Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07120609386466244408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-78583293468953091152011-02-18T19:55:27.311+00:002011-02-18T19:55:27.311+00:00Am I allowed to say that Martin Dockrell is, ahem,...Am I allowed to say that <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=martin+dockrell&meta=&rlz=1I7ADFA_en#hl=en&xhr=t&q=martin+dockrell+ash&cp=16&pf=p&sclient=psy&rlz=1I7ADFA_en&source=hp&aq=0&aqi=&aql=&oq=martin+dockrell+&pbx=1&fp=fae3be6c71dc0e79" rel="nofollow">Martin Dockrell is, ahem, a bit of a liar</a> on this blog? ;)Dick Puddlecotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.com