tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post2555198639765527183..comments2023-10-17T15:56:22.827+01:00Comments on Velvet Glove, Iron Fist: E-cigarettes: The control lobby shows its true coloursChristopher Snowdonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-30279222244673705592013-06-13T15:25:35.822+01:002013-06-13T15:25:35.822+01:00Let me introduce to another nut case that’s been u...Let me introduce to another nut case that’s been unleashed by TC and Public Health. This concerns a smoking ban at addiction recovery centers. It concerns people presenting for serious, impairing addictions, e.g., narcotics, alcohol, that have consequences in the immediate term. It’s also known that people that don’t want to quit smoking, which is not an immediate-term issue, put off seeking treatment for serious addiction when smoking bans are instituted. So why would anyone….. let me qualify that…. why would anyone in their right mind institute smoking bans? Unfortunately, there are some that don’t want to quit smoking that, for whatever reasons, find themselves in one of these facilities.<br /><br /><b>Treatment for nicotine sobriety</b><br /><i>Loebs explained that Seabrook treats two kinds of people around the issue of nicotine:<br />Those who want to quit and stay quit<br />Those who don’t want to quit<br />How do they treat these two groups differently? “Not at all,” she says. “Both groups receive nicotine replacement therapy if they choose that, lozenges, hard candies, and they are all required to attend Nicotine Anonymous 12-step meetings.”<br /><br />She explained that those in violation of the tobacco-free policy by verbalizing cravings constantly or acting out must attend a nicotine recovery program. This group then takes the place of their daily gym time.<br />“We see that as an incentive,” Loebs commented. “We try not to shame them and try to help them, but we want to be clear that we have a zero tolerance policy.”<br /><br />“Programs that have been successful at this, have all said the same thing, ‘it is as dangerous and as important as alcohol or opiates or any other substance.’</i><br />http://www.behavioral.net/article/replacing-cigarette-butts-candy-wrappers<br /><br />I’ve got to tell you, this has to be right up there for pure stupidity, ignorance, and haughtiness. NICOTINE SOBRIETY!! Have you got that – NICOTINE SOBRIETY!!! Sobriety as opposed to what? And they’re all required to attend “Nicotine Anonymous 12-step meetings”. A Nicotine Anonymous 12-step program!!!!! And a “nicotine recovery program”!!!! AAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!<br /><br />Just when you think we’ve hit the bottom of the perversity barrel…. <i>BAMM KAPOOK</i>…. the fanatics/zealots find a new bottom, a new sludge level. The insanity just gets deeper and deeper. It’s scary that this sort of sanctimonious, obnoxious nitwit, making up all sorts of obsessed-with-control blather that all must strictly abide by, is in charge of anything, let alone an addiction treatment facility. I wouldn’t put this fool in charge of a broom closet. The woman herself is in urgent need of psychotherapy or maybe a stint in a correctional facility for abuse of patients. It’s bad enough to ban smoking as a coercive measure. Filling people’s minds by force with condescending, bigoted drivel is more than a few steps too far. And this nut case has been set loose to explore the bounds of derangement, to be inflicted on others, by TC and PH. I repeat. TC/PH folk are dangerously disordered minds.<br />JohnBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05165051324276559561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-80151624199533081072013-06-13T15:15:45.133+01:002013-06-13T15:15:45.133+01:00There wasn't a huge protest movement against t...There wasn't a huge protest movement against the smoking ban in the UK perhaps because of decades of 'education' that smoking is dirty and not respectable. The message was internalised. As a very recent ecig user I don't feel that. I suspect most users don't either. There'll be a bigger fight against this effective ban.IWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01941142324016860654noreply@blogger.com