tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post8245213470451002622..comments2023-10-17T15:56:22.827+01:00Comments on Velvet Glove, Iron Fist: Healthy food is expensive - if you look at it in a certain wayChristopher Snowdonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-81273832991196726652014-10-13T13:23:59.271+01:002014-10-13T13:23:59.271+01:00OP,
You may be right. A quite pathetic methodology...OP,<br />You may be right. A quite pathetic methodology, if so.Christopher Snowdonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-79810626141494029992014-10-13T07:45:45.391+01:002014-10-13T07:45:45.391+01:00You are asuming the imbiciles that live of MC Dogs...You are asuming the imbiciles that live of MC Dogs and Unlucky fried kitten KNOW how to cook.<br /><br />Most of them could not boil an egg if the instructions were written on the shell. Even Then, they are more than likley to be unable to read any way.Furor Teutonicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13856575077967523322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-31601161918366659232014-10-10T18:47:08.316+01:002014-10-10T18:47:08.316+01:00The rise in prices of healthy food practically cop...The rise in prices of healthy food practically copies the CPI (it's 2% more), so it seems to me (and the study certainly doesn't seem to suggest otherwise) they just took a bunch of items in CPI, categorized them, computed mean price in every group and found out that the mean price of 'healthy' group rose more then of the 'unhealthy' group.<br /><br />The problem is that this is absolutely unimportant. First, most food prices fell in real terms. The food is getting more affordable.<br />Second, what is important for poor people is not the 'mean price' in category, but rather 'lowest price of healthy menu'. Which, btw, would dictate not to exclude goods that was not present in both baskets (2002/2012) as they did.<br /><br />It seems to me that the whole study is just bad statistics. Ondřej Palkovskýhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05848829697164045253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-82163789774559964622014-10-10T17:56:53.843+01:002014-10-10T17:56:53.843+01:00I am not sure but it seems to me that you assume i...I am not sure but it seems to me that you assume it wrong: the study is here: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0109343<br /><br />What do you think? It seems to me that not only they did not use real prices, but it somehow seems to me they even didn't use the weights from CPI? Ondřej Palkovskýhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05848829697164045253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-69682078873842461702014-10-10T17:52:11.554+01:002014-10-10T17:52:11.554+01:00Here is another factor to take into account: facil...Here is another factor to take into account: facilities. If a person is so poor they do not have access to an oven, stove top, refrigerator or maybe even a home, healthy food is more expensive. Healthy fast food establishments tend to charge more for their products and the options for healthy choices at conventional fast food restaurants are generally no less expensive than unhealthy options and often sold in smaller, less calorie dense, portions. Even if you could get, for instance, a really large salad for the price of a burger and chips and then eat half of it now and save the other half for later, where would you store it to keep it fresh? The same goes for less expensive foods bought at the grocery store. If you have no kitchen, where can you store your food? Where can you cook it? <br /><br />You also neglected to mention food deserts: rural and/or poor communities where there are no reasonably priced supermarkets either because they aren't profitable or because the community is dangerous. What if a poor person has no car to get to the nearest supermarket or farm stand and either they can't afford public transportation or there is no public transportation from where they live or work and the supermarket? It's all well and good for you to hop in your car, pick up ingredients for a healthy stir fry and return to your home to cook it but those aren't always options for the poor.Pecan R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04226379926712732201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-35729689757779068572014-10-10T17:32:51.812+01:002014-10-10T17:32:51.812+01:00Scott - indeed. Se reference to opportunity costs....Scott - indeed. Se reference to opportunity costs.<br /><br />OP - The figures used are in real terms, I assume.Christopher Snowdonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-59781775258565047032014-10-10T17:29:49.471+01:002014-10-10T17:29:49.471+01:00Did I get it correctly they didn't account for...Did I get it correctly they didn't account for inflation? I.e. the correct conclusion would be something like 'prices of healthy meals rose 2%, prices of unhealthy actually fell"?Ondřej Palkovskýhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05848829697164045253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-14115722220119696442014-10-10T17:25:09.743+01:002014-10-10T17:25:09.743+01:00I think that there are other factors involved. Peo...I think that there are other factors involved. People do not want to take the time it takes to actually prepare a meal. Many families do not eat together at the dinner table as well. I also think that HOW to cook wholesome food is missing from many people's skill set these days.<br /><br />It is all well and good to urge people to buy and cook food but if they are unwilling to take the time and/or lack the skills to do so in an appetizing manner then they will simply go with what is convenient - fast food or frozen meals.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16537101095437958250noreply@blogger.com