tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post7403628929794932095..comments2023-10-17T15:56:22.827+01:00Comments on Velvet Glove, Iron Fist: At the movies with the prohibitionistsChristopher Snowdonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-29616526486753742582011-09-01T13:09:16.006+01:002011-09-01T13:09:16.006+01:00To be honest, I'm not entirely keen on people ...To be honest, I'm not entirely keen on people smoking in films, as it gives me the sudden urge to light up in sympathy. Which, unfortunately, sort of supports the bansturbators' point of view.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-3796471746476960462011-08-30T15:06:41.910+01:002011-08-30T15:06:41.910+01:00I confess, I am confused. Scenes of violent rapine...I confess, I am confused. Scenes of violent rapine, ugly sexual exploitation, gratuitous violence, gun culture etc. etc. these we are told, have repeatedly been told are art imitating life and most certainly will not lead to life imitating art, nosir, the kiddies will not start bashing and jumping up and down n helpless little girls and using daddy's garden tools as recreational aids simply cause they saw it in the movies. <br />Advertising does not brainwash people into buying stuff that tastes like shit, has no nutritional value and costs ten times what it should, no nosir, I have that all wrong, it is simply either entertainment or information.<br /><br />Show em a cigarette and they just won't be able to help themselves, zombie like they will head for the nearest tobacconist and buy cigarettes.<br /><br />Duh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-49454059937351371712011-08-30T10:55:23.708+01:002011-08-30T10:55:23.708+01:00Right on cue. A Glands-inspired, on-the-toilet stu...Right on cue. A Glands-inspired, on-the-toilet study from Europe <i>avec</i> required conclusion..<br /><br /><i>The link between smoking in movies and adolescent smoking is robust and transcends different cultural contexts. Limiting young people's exposure to movie smoking could have important public health implications.</i><br /><br />http://thorax.bmj.com/content/early/2011/08/25/thoraxjnl-2011-200489.short?q=w_thorax_ahead_tab<br /><br />The ultimate translation is:<br /><i>Limiting young people's exposure to <b>people smoking</b> could have important public health implications.</i>Glands-freenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-83668417983463419682011-08-30T08:49:02.909+01:002011-08-30T08:49:02.909+01:00Stantonitis Glands: "These activities never ...Stantonitis Glands: <i> "These activities never made sense, but are even more remarkable at a time when health and education programs are being slashed."</i><br /><br />This could beautifully, perfectly be said of TC (and like programs), and particularly the perverse efforts of Stantonitis himself.<br /><br /><i> He crunched the numbers with the great mechanical engineer and concluded...</i><br /><br />Chris, show some respect….. great mechanical engineer/cardiologist/economist/social engineer/film censor/pathological liar.<br /><br />There. That’s better.<br /><br /><i> The WHO and the CDC have been happy to support his demands for censorship</i><br /><br />I have a feeling that censorship is really a WHO “initiative”. I think most initiatives are centrally directed from the WHO. Stantonitis is a WHO lackey, well and long connected in the GlobaLink network. If the WHO has an “initiative” (e.g., bans don’t hurt business, heart miracles, movie censorship), Stantonitis is the chief go-to dimwit to provide scientific “evidence”. You can hear Glands responding to a phone call from the WHO – <i>“Sure, Louie…… I’ll whip up a research paper while I’m on the toilet tonight”.</i><br /><br /><i> Don't be fooled into thinking this is just about changing the classification system. The aim is to get rid of smoking from all movies. It is censorship, pure and simple.</i><br /><br />Unfortunately, there is method in the madness. The goal (Godber/WHO Blueprint) is to contrive smoking into an “R”-rated, adult-only act (on a par with sexual acts). As such, it should only be permitted in private, engaged in solely or between consenting adults. Therefore, smoking should be banned in all public places, particularly to “protect” The Children™ from being “led astray”.<br /><br />It’s tough work attempting to directly contrive smoking into such “moral” terms, particularly by a morally-destitute eugenics, physicalist framework. However, film already has a classification system that can be used for such contrivance; it’s working back-to-front. There may be a better chance of getting an “R” classification in movies because those that are not antismokers may think it is only confined to movies. But this is not what the ban droolers have in mind. If they can get an “R” classification for smoking in films, then the “next logical step” is that the “R”-rated, adults-only act of smoking – acknowledged so in films - must also be banned entirely from the public….. to protect the moral sensibilities of “pure” nonsmokers and particularly for The Children™. If the R-rating applies in films, it applies in real life. Or so say the fanatics.<br /><br />Therefore, it’s not just a “propaganda in film” issue, troubling as that is in itself. The whole idea of classifying/rating the act of smoking should actively be rejected/battled.Glands-freenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-40484694413859742562011-08-29T22:36:16.237+01:002011-08-29T22:36:16.237+01:00The Ontario Coalition for Smoke- Free Movies was f...The Ontario Coalition for Smoke- Free Movies was formed in May of 2010 to take collective action to counter the harmful impact of smoking in movies.<br /><br />Members of the Ontario Coalition for Smoke-free Movies include the Canadian Cancer Society Ontario Division, Heart and Stroke Foundation of Ontario, Non-Smokers’ Rights Association/ Smoking and Health Action Foundation, Ontario Lung Association, Ottawa Public Health, Physicians for a Smoke -Free Canada, Ontario Tobacco Control Area Networks.<br />http://www.smokefreemovies.ca/content/ontario-coalition-smoke-free-movies1Ann W.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-73398429591412677512011-08-29T22:34:18.638+01:002011-08-29T22:34:18.638+01:00We are experiencing the same tactics in Canada.
&...We are experiencing the same tactics in Canada.<br /><br />"In Canada, about 300,000 high‐school aged children smoke either on a daily or occasional basis. Of these, from one‐third to one‐half became smokers because of their exposure to tobacco on screen. If young people were not exposed to smoking in movies, there would be about 130,000 fewer Canadian teenagers smoking.<br /><br />From 2004 to 2009, an estimated $600 million in provincial and federal film production incentives have gone to fund US studio films shot in Canada, mostly in British Columbia, Ontario and Québec. An estimated $240 million of these public incentives funded US studio films with smoking that were classified as appropriate for children and adolescents — G, PG or 14A — by Canadian provincial film rating authorities.<br /><br />Tobacco use will eventually kill 32% of 15 year old smokers, half before age 70 and half after, a result confirmed by Health Canada. We thus estimate that exposure to on-screen smoking will cause 43,000 premature deaths among current Canadian smokers ages 15-19.*<br /><br />*This mortality projection assumes that smoking cessation rates among Canadian adolescents and outcomes for tobacco-induced diseases among smokers are substantially unchanged since the 1990s and will remain so."<br />http://www.smoke-free.ca/pdf_1/2010/Tobaccovector.pdfAnn W.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-71098070939766401212011-08-29T18:08:53.729+01:002011-08-29T18:08:53.729+01:00I have noticed certainly in a few BBC productions ...I have noticed certainly in a few BBC productions a certain amount of glee amongst actors when able to light up for 'verite'. In a recent reworking of Miss Marple, a tense scene set in a pub, lost it's edge as the actors were obviously enjoying the illicit fact they were smoking in a pub again.Pavlov's Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162563403722211352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-4343072097778956312011-08-29T17:38:59.332+01:002011-08-29T17:38:59.332+01:00It's about time that they cracked down on movi...It's about time that they cracked down on movies displaying activities potentially damaging to one's health.<br /><br />I hope that this: http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/26/3/657.abstract<br /><br />underlines my point.<br /><br />I hope that Glantz, who works in San Francisco, has simply overlooked this subject and will take it aboard his moral juggernaut at his earliest opportunity.<br /><br />But he won't. That would require courage.Twenty_Rothmansnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-76852794441034108732011-08-29T15:30:11.232+01:002011-08-29T15:30:11.232+01:00Interesting that in last night's critically-ac...Interesting that in last night's critically-acclaimed spy thriller "Page Eight", the lead character played by Bill Nighy was shown smoking. It seems that, very often, smoking is used as a means of demonstrating that a character is independent-minded and a bit edgy. As if interesting people smoke, and dull ones don't.<br /><br />(The film, btw, was at heart a load of wordy, portentous lefty drivel)Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-44427696532169470632011-08-29T15:29:36.650+01:002011-08-29T15:29:36.650+01:00Well here's some good propaganda on this websi...Well here's some good propaganda on this website <br /><br />http://www.scenesmoking.org/frame.htm<br /><br />(I believe it's rival to Stanton Glantz's website,not quite sure though)<br /><br />On the left bottom they claim:<br /><br />'Smoking kills about 340 YOUNG people a day'!!!!!!<br /><br />Honestly can someone sue these bastards!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com