tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post3085515804391901361..comments2023-10-17T15:56:22.827+01:00Comments on Velvet Glove, Iron Fist: E-cigarettes - safe for nowChristopher Snowdonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-91332064394117775082009-10-14T22:59:44.750+01:002009-10-14T22:59:44.750+01:00I took my e-cig to my local pub today for the firs...I took my e-cig to my local pub today for the first time. My report <a href="http://frank-davis.livejournal.com/28923.html" rel="nofollow">here.</a><br /><br />I have no intention of giving up smoking. The e-cig is just for when I can't smoke proper tobacco.Frank Davisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-48385322519457185032009-10-14T18:59:48.389+01:002009-10-14T18:59:48.389+01:00Being a very polite bear type, I asked at a couple...Being a very polite bear type, I asked at a couple of pubs that I go to now and then if they would let me smoke my e-cig. Both refused to let me as they said it looked too much like smoking. I don't suppose the black cig with a blue led is that much of a giveaway then. I gave up on that and joined my fellow smokers outside again.<br /><br />I was quite amused by the amount of Chantix ads in the US. They all contained a voiceover and written warning about the effects. Someone please explain to me why I would want to take a drug that I am told can induce suicidal tendencies and depression? Our government does that to me well enough with no drugs required, thank you.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17969767902477233674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-7066095440463040122009-10-14T17:59:42.399+01:002009-10-14T17:59:42.399+01:00Here in the USA Big Tobacco and Big Pharma own the...Here in the USA Big Tobacco and Big Pharma own the FDA. Lets walk through this step by step. Is obvious that the e-cigarette has <strong> the potential</strong> to save millions of lives. Tobacco cigarettes currently kill hundreds of thousands a year, but are still legal. Big Tobacco is a leading source of donations for the FDA. If tobacco cigs were banned, or a device such as an electronic cigarette took away tobacco sales, the government loses lots and lots of sin tax dollars. The FDA makes a blanket statement that e-cigs are dangerous to spread fear into the American people. Making sense now?<br /><br />Johnny Blaze<br />CEO, <a rel="" href="http://www.halocigs.com" rel="nofollow">Halo Electronic Cigarettes</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-37655865070570592192009-10-14T16:47:12.019+01:002009-10-14T16:47:12.019+01:00"...many people either do not wish to stop sm..."...many people either do not wish to stop smoking or find it very hard to do so. For this group, we believe that products should be made available that deliver nicotine in a safe way, without the harmful components found in tobacco."<br /><br />Do they, indeed!!<br /><br />I DON'T want my nicotine delivered in a 'safe' way. I LIKE all the other 3,999 chemicals. And, apart from being woefully lacking in chemicals, they're generally not very reliable. My husband's had two e-cigs and an e-pipe and if it isn't the batteries (which don't last long) it's the atomiser or clogging. <br /><br />I'd like to know by who's authority ASHUK can insist that those who 'do not wish to stop smoking' be forced onto their nasty, pathetic alternatives? What part of 'do not wish to stop smoking' do they not understand?<br /><br />Actually - I do know. They're spouting official Royal College of Physicians policy. The RCP has a plan all timetabled to shunt us onto 'smokeless' nicotine by 2025.<br /><br />Hateful lot.<br />KarenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-36908359873672373932009-10-14T16:30:31.905+01:002009-10-14T16:30:31.905+01:00Anon - As far as I know, ASH still technically wan...Anon - As far as I know, ASH still technically want snus legalised. I say technically because they very rarely mention it. The link I provided was a rare example. If you've seen them contradict that since, I'd be interested to see it.<br /><br />Curmudgeon - You should ask <a href="http://leg-iron.livejournal.com/235854.html" rel="nofollow">Leg-Iron</a> about it. There is a whole world of e-cigarette fanatics out there! <a href="http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/" rel="nofollow">For example</a>.Christopher Snowdonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-19540393935940565312009-10-14T16:24:27.318+01:002009-10-14T16:24:27.318+01:00Have e-cigarettes been taken up to any extent? I c...Have e-cigarettes been taken up to any extent? I can't say I've ever seen anyone using one, nor have I heard anyone discuss them in day-to-day conversation.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-27187924005634001072009-10-14T16:12:11.101+01:002009-10-14T16:12:11.101+01:00ASHuk's three reservations appear inconsistent...ASHuk's three reservations appear inconsistent. First ASH claims that ecigs don't provide enough nicotine for smokers, who will then continue to smoke cigarettes. They then recommend nicotine replacement products. I've tried gum and one of its problems is that it doesn't provide enough nicotine. That is why it is useless and most people go back to cigarettes. Isn't it mainly bought by air travellers. I bet sales peak in July. Incidentally, why is it called nicotine replacement? The nicotine isn't replaced. If it is clinical trials they are after, how about the enormous snus study. Snus was made avaiable in Sweden (population x million) but its existence was largely hidden from the rest of Europe? The prevalence of smoking and the incidence of lung cancer among Swedish males are the lowest in the developed world. The incidences of oral and pancreatic cancer are at the lower end of the European rankings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-82447654221344619852009-10-14T15:48:00.459+01:002009-10-14T15:48:00.459+01:00Chris, I'm not claiming you're wrong, but ...Chris, I'm not claiming you're wrong, but is this ASHuk's most recent position re. snus? I've got a vague memory of a less enthusiastic statement on their website.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com