tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post3016171148715294534..comments2023-10-17T15:56:22.827+01:00Comments on Velvet Glove, Iron Fist: The most "leftie" opening ceremony ever?Christopher Snowdonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-20486869704583290092012-07-30T14:34:17.604+01:002012-07-30T14:34:17.604+01:00A chance to debate with an angry anonymous sociali...A chance to debate with an angry anonymous socialist weasel? It's my lucky day!<br /><br />I may have had an e-mail from you in the past, but since you haven't identified yourself, it's a bit hard to tell. If it made as much sense as your comments here, it probably went into the spam folder.<br /><br />BTW, what part of "For ease of reference for me and other readers, please leave a name. Anonymous comments will be deleted" do people find difficult to understand?Christopher Snowdonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-84564336869108491832012-07-30T03:55:23.070+01:002012-07-30T03:55:23.070+01:00Ticket touts disgrace: Row upon row of empty seats...Ticket touts disgrace: Row upon row of empty seats… as tickets sent to foreign VIPs go on the black market<br />Large areas of empty seats seen in stadia for the second day running<br />London 2012 chairman Lord Coe reveals students and teachers are also being called in at the last minute<br />Every tout arrested had tickets sent to foreign VIPS<br />Organisers Locog have begun an investigation into the ticketing fiasco<br /><br />EMBARRASSING: Military recruited to fill mass empty seats at Olympics…<br /><br />Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2180579/Olympics-2012-Row-row-seats–tickets-sent-foreign-VIPs-black-market.html#ixzz224NKc0Mf<br /><br />harleyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-7116634702314649202012-07-29T20:30:44.913+01:002012-07-29T20:30:44.913+01:00Our anonymous socialist should understand that exp...Our anonymous socialist should understand that expressing a desire to tie people to stakes and ignite them tends to make subsequent attempts to appear reasonable less than convincing.<br /><br />I do agree that libertarians are not necessarily right wing but I have issues with those who hide their hatred of others behind faux concerns for their fellow man. <br /><br />As far as I can see, you have written a fairly affable piece that was not especially critical of Danny Boyle but does expose the likes of Campbell and Flynn for exactly what they are. <br /><br />I have read it again and can't find anything about the undeserving poor or the deserving rich. <br /><br />I suppose that the Guardianista must be even crazier than I had previously thought. I was already aware that they are supercilious and patronising so that aspect was less of a surprise.Ivan Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364023294207490403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-56778781674435212522012-07-29T16:26:29.466+01:002012-07-29T16:26:29.466+01:00You have my email Mr. Snowdon, not only have I pr...You have my email Mr. Snowdon, not only have I provided it as a prerequisite for commenting on your posts, but I have written to you directly before. Please feel free to contact me and engage in this debate directly. I have considerable respect for your scholarship, but would be delighted to debate your political position. As far as I am concerned right wing and libertarian do not necessarily belong in the same sentence. If you wish to disabuse me of this notion, feel free.<br />Anon 14:23Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-4200394495839391342012-07-29T15:59:19.651+01:002012-07-29T15:59:19.651+01:00Angry Anon is Laurie Penny and I claim my £5.Angry Anon is Laurie Penny and I claim my £5.Olly M Picsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-55696067146971741022012-07-29T15:17:51.362+01:002012-07-29T15:17:51.362+01:00The best comment I read on this was in Andrew Gill...The best comment I read on this was in Andrew Gilligan's column in the Telegraph.<br />It's not mine by the way.<br /><br />"I was waiting for the part where the kids in the hospital beds grow up, become elderly, and then are dehydrated to death".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-21630152281086410382012-07-29T14:23:19.980+01:002012-07-29T14:23:19.980+01:00Ooh sad and inadequate reply. What is refusing the...Ooh sad and inadequate reply. What is refusing the poor (smoker?) healthcare then, if not hatred and violence? Do you want to live in a society where being human is enough to have value or not? Isn't libertarianism about choice and not "worth"? Instead of a discussion about the undeserving poor can we have a discussion about the undeserving rich? It isn't the poor, downtrodden and powerless who make the rules it is the wealthy, powerful and self interested who make the rules. Do the have nots suffer?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-80620165325339462132012-07-29T13:50:23.344+01:002012-07-29T13:50:23.344+01:00"...but most of all I want the scum who think..."...but most of all I want the scum who think that (stolen) wealth makes them superior beings tied to stakes and ignited."<br /><br />Because in the end it always comes down to hatred and violence.Christopher Snowdonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-46970957478813018782012-07-29T13:12:07.815+01:002012-07-29T13:12:07.815+01:00oh dear. Is there anyone on this comments thread t...oh dear. Is there anyone on this comments thread that actually understands the terms right wing and left wing. According to, sadly, both the blog and the thread that has followed it the answer has to be, no. <br />I am regarded as left of centre. I want to live in a society where people are not left to fall by the wayside. I want to live in a society where people are not left to freeze on the streets because they have the misfortune to find themselves jobless, through economic circumstance, disability or plain bad luck. I want sick people to get treatment (on the basis of need), I want the poor to be seen as human beings, but most of all I want the scum who think that (stolen) wealth makes them superior beings tied to stakes and ignited.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-77520782793234830782012-07-29T12:11:49.035+01:002012-07-29T12:11:49.035+01:00O/T
Some may be interested in a little more infor...O/T<br /><br />Some may be interested in a little more information on the “Chapman Trick”. See comments section at:<br />https://cfrankdavis.wordpress.com/2012/07/29/5894/Magnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-3546322928736588632012-07-29T01:16:37.672+01:002012-07-29T01:16:37.672+01:00Would anyone outside the UK have understood most o...Would anyone outside the UK have understood most of the references? <br /><br />Why did Boyle's history start at the Industrial Revolution?<br /><br />Where were King Arthur, the Magna Carta, Shakespeare and Florence Nightingale? Our wonderful architects and physicians from the 15th to the 20th centuries?<br /><br />And all the dark colours and allusions. Terrible.<br /><br />And why would the Committee have asked Danny Boyle to create such a programme, something which should have been a paean to the United Kingdom yet welcoming to our overseas visitors? <br /><br />@DP: No, lefties don't have to prove anything, alas. Only righties do, to the nth degree, sadly.<br /><br />ChurchmouseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-31800248378933214112012-07-28T13:24:42.919+01:002012-07-28T13:24:42.919+01:00Dear Mr Snowdon
" ... to provide an example ...Dear Mr Snowdon<br /><br /><i>" ... to provide an example of an opening ceremony that was more "leftie"."</i><br /><br />Surely they would also have to prove Mr Burley MP, whomever he may be, had actually <i>seen</i> it too.<br /><br />DPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-90477977944021604112012-07-28T12:59:14.509+01:002012-07-28T12:59:14.509+01:00I thought it was a great spectacle and I enjoyed m...I thought it was a great spectacle and I enjoyed most of it.<br /><br />However some people feel about it now, the NHS is a uniquely British project that many believe was a brave and noble concept at the time of its inception. I have no problem with it appearing as such in a historical pageant. Did people expect Danny Boyle to give it a Trainspotting twist in this setting? <br /><br />I was rather pleased that IKB was portrayed with a cigar even if it was unlit<br /><br />I was moved by the presence of Muhammad Ali but I suppose many would consider the great man a "bit of a leftie" so perhaps he was included on that basis?Ivan Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364023294207490403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-51140395982603207732012-07-28T12:45:17.674+01:002012-07-28T12:45:17.674+01:00Straight from a PC manual, as Tinks said.
You for...Straight from a PC manual, as Tinks said.<br /><br />You forgot <a href="http://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/229004605189668864" rel="nofollow">this tweet</a> which summed up the delight of lefties nationwide.Dick Puddlecotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-59420170690391096472012-07-28T11:20:40.316+01:002012-07-28T11:20:40.316+01:00The fact that we are talking in terms of left and ...The fact that we are talking in terms of left and right following an Olympics opening ceremony and that certain sections of that world are crowing would suggest the event had some serious political overtones.<br /><br />Great spectacle, but definitely had some 'hang on a mo' moments. What was the NHS doing in there? (Image immediately used for political purposes!) The very good modern music bit started with a Mini out of which emerge a 'single mum' and her black child. All very right on.<br /><br />A version of modern Britain which is from a PC manual.<br /><br />Hopefully, we can now go on to enjoy the sport.tinkshttp://bit.ly/tinkswunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-66950402073693536132012-07-28T11:03:14.043+01:002012-07-28T11:03:14.043+01:00I thought the NHS bit was quite good.
It showed t...I thought the NHS bit was quite good.<br /><br />It showed the massive overcrowding in our hospitals after tens of thousands of beds were lost through the closing of hospital wards during Labour's time in office, followed by the inevitable spread of lethal MRSA and C. difficile bugs.<br /><br />In the end a battalion of Matrons (or possibly cleaners drafted in from an private cleaning company - they didn't look like medical staff) introduced better standards of hygiene, eradicated the bacteria and so, at last, the children could sleep safely in their beds.<br /><br />Simples.JJJWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-16949144476954050682012-07-28T10:24:45.029+01:002012-07-28T10:24:45.029+01:00I thought it was an outstanding opening ceremony. ...I thought it was an outstanding opening ceremony. I had a horrible feeling it would be embarrassingly "diverse" and multi-cultural, and while it clearly was these things, it managed to be so without being TOO embarrassing. The NHS thing made me cringe, though. <br /><br />There was no logic to its inclusion. <br /><br />It had nothing to do with sport.<br /><br />If it was there to celebrate Britishness rather than sport, why not use something far more important (and less political) like, you know, the English language or British expeditionary ways/seafaring?<br /><br />And the implied acceptance that this was obviously a universally applauded good thing, like fresh air or hugs from mother, also made me gag. The thing is a bloated monstrosity that costs a fortune, kills hundreds of thousands of year and which drives the neo-eugenicism which is the number 1 peril this country faces.<br /><br />Still, that aside, Boyle did a great job. Spectacular, clever, impressive. And he generally had a good stab at a bad job. After all, when you think about it, the main thing that has shaped the British psyche is war. And you only had to look at the parade of nations at the end to see that Britain either founded, conquered or beat in wars 95% of the countries there. Fly pasts from Lancasters or recreations of Empire building would hardly something that could be included in a feelgood opening ceremony!<br /><br />A great ceremony, the NHS bit aside.Mr Anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-19011547414126849692012-07-28T10:14:22.265+01:002012-07-28T10:14:22.265+01:00Dark satanic mill chimneys belching out ,rivers of...Dark satanic mill chimneys belching out ,rivers of steel <br />choking the bouncing kids,flaming rings watering the eyes ,and yet poor Isambard Brunnel(Ken Branagh)<br />dare not light up his cigar<br />Let me light up my rolly and reflect on the kant.<br />Let us all be honest,all what was missing were 100 FT fibreglass statues of Marx,Engels,Lenin and<br />Che Guevera.<br />PS<br />Here up North we still have the <br />choking chimneys ,in their shadows stand the derelict pubs <br />in which ,once, we escaped the<br />anguish of industrial toil<br />The only smoke now allowed is the lung wretching fumes from Bessemer Pots<br /><br />New Jerusalem .Keep it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-66050412596089217982012-07-28T10:09:29.352+01:002012-07-28T10:09:29.352+01:00http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Oil#Sydney_2...<i>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Oil#Sydney_2000_Olympic_Games_performance</i><br /><br />I though the 'Sorry' meant 'I am sorry that you are still around'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-91961072352210975572012-07-28T09:56:07.828+01:002012-07-28T09:56:07.828+01:00I thought the kids in beds were orphans like in Ro...I thought the kids in beds were orphans like in Romania. Giving a different leftie stance...MalmoMumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04816230005090219057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-80463226429147250262012-07-28T07:10:04.344+01:002012-07-28T07:10:04.344+01:00I gave up after children in pyjamas singing and si...I gave up after children in pyjamas singing and signing the National Anthem. I imagine it didn't improve.<br /><br />jayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-46344378527333109002012-07-28T06:45:44.592+01:002012-07-28T06:45:44.592+01:00This was a fairly political moment at the Sdney 20...This was a fairly political moment at the Sdney 2000 games. It was the closing ceremony however.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Oil#Sydney_2000_Olympic_Games_performanceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com