tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post2432882704362154007..comments2023-10-17T15:56:22.827+01:00Comments on Velvet Glove, Iron Fist: Junk scientists wantedChristopher Snowdonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-49854106997525592702014-03-20T00:42:05.974+00:002014-03-20T00:42:05.974+00:00And the 2014 update to it all:
http://www.plosone...And the 2014 update to it all:<br /><br />http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0086391<br /><br />- MJMMichael J. McFaddenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12181949578184965482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-5169065760344249432013-07-01T01:07:24.520+01:002013-07-01T01:07:24.520+01:00Looks like this is the eventual outcome - and it l...Looks like this is the eventual outcome - and it looks like this research has taken the full monty of 3 years funding;<br /> <br />"The TRDRP ... may fund one (1) Grant of up to $850,000 (including direct and indirect costs) per year for three (3) years to investigate the chemicals, biology and health risk assessment of thirdhand smoke."<br /><br />http://newscenter.lbl.gov/feature-stories/2013/06/20/berkeley-lab-confirms-thirdhand-smoke-causes-dna-damage/<br /><br />Kin_Freehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08315471344708077392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-14924011101890005902012-06-22T03:38:19.140+01:002012-06-22T03:38:19.140+01:00I used to work for Kimball Physics (KPI) in the 80...I used to work for Kimball Physics (KPI) in the 80s. The whole anti-smoking thing concocted by Dr. Crawford seems an apt foil for keeping prying eyes from noticing the multiple and improperly stored toxic chemicals and heavy metals to which employees are regularly exposed. While there, many of us became very ill. I, and many others, had to leave due to overuse injury/multiple toxicities/abnormal liver values- they used to clean out pesticides from the apple trucks in the parking lots where the supervisors would regularly go through our cars, taking notes on whatever was in our cars. After years of multiple illnesses, I now have what seems to be a progressive and likely terminal disease of neuropathy, weakening connective tissue, mast cells, CSF leak, and muscle wasting- don't know if all can be attributed to KPI, but burning titanium oxide at high temperatures, cutting oils in the skin, and toluene, benzene, trichlorethylene et al in enclosed asbestos spaces for 70 hours a week aren't exactly healthy lifestyles. Oh, and smoke wasn't the only thing the higher ups complained about- if they wanted to pick on you, they'd find something to "smell" that was distasteful enough to keep you from revealing the actions of the man behind the curtain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-64360371627464411172010-07-05T19:55:30.540+01:002010-07-05T19:55:30.540+01:00Belinda, actually I don't know. California...Belinda, actually I don't know. California's total MSA payments from smokers were about 400,000,000.00 per year as of several years ago. That might have changed since then. Of that 400 million a certain percentage, fairly small but still sizable in terms of dollars, goes to "Tobacco Control."<br /><br />- MichaelMichael J. McFaddenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12181949578184965482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-78416897429987855372010-07-05T14:23:55.463+01:002010-07-05T14:23:55.463+01:00I read that it was about 5 per cent Michael, is th...I read that it was about 5 per cent Michael, is that right?Belindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16284836559314332001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-33541772090669434842010-07-04T17:58:03.994+01:002010-07-04T17:58:03.994+01:00Belinda, as unbelievable as the amount of money Ca...Belinda, as unbelievable as the amount of money Califoria's Antismokers get from that 1988 tax is, it's only a small part of what they get in that state. In addition to all the grants and such from the NicoGummyPatchyProductPushers they also share in over Eight Hundred MILLION dollars a year from the Master Settlement tax on smokers.<br /><br />America's Antismokers are absolutley afloat in money. One of the smaller States, NJ, told their tobacco control program about ten years ago that their budget would be CUT to "just 14 million dollars" and the head of the group responded angrily that "OK. Everything stops. There's just no money." <br /><br />When 14 million dollars is referred to as "no money" you KNOW something's rotten.<br /><br />- MichaelMichael J. McFaddenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12181949578184965482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-72513008584061143412010-07-01T02:53:45.024+01:002010-07-01T02:53:45.024+01:00I was watching a star trekky convention on mtv/col...I was watching a star trekky convention on mtv/college hour and guess who invented the fazor,none other than stanton glantz.......no more will we have to endure wood burning smoke or coal fires for heat........yes that fazor saved the planet........only one problem......it only works on tv....sounds like second hand smoke claims......it only works on tv........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-48335735959132296522010-06-29T06:26:18.362+01:002010-06-29T06:26:18.362+01:00Anonymous, cooking a good healthy vegetarian dinne...Anonymous, cooking a good healthy vegetarian dinner on a gas stove will expose your children to roughly the same amount of formaldehyde as smoking 100 cigarettes.<br /><br />For woodsmoke issues see BurningIssues.org You'll find that cigarettes put out virtually NOTHING compared to such "ecological energy sources."<br /><br />- MJMMichael J. McFaddenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12181949578184965482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-90446196842517709022010-06-29T06:05:25.255+01:002010-06-29T06:05:25.255+01:00OMG.. I was just thinking how DANGEROUS first and ...OMG.. I was just thinking how DANGEROUS first and second hand cooking smoke , camp fires and wood stove smoke must be for our health!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-10186603613936569662010-06-28T19:58:13.677+01:002010-06-28T19:58:13.677+01:00Third Hand Smoke Campaign. New Weapon in the War o...Third Hand Smoke Campaign. New Weapon in the War on Tobacco<br />Can you get a MI from Third Hand Smoke? The California TRDRP (Tobacco Related Disease Research Program) offers researchers $3.75 million to prove "Yes, you can!"<br /><br />Dr. Jonathan Winickoff, quoted in the article above, first defined "Third Hand Smoke" in his 2009 study, "Beliefs About the Health Effects of 'Thirdhand' Smoke and Home Smoking Bans". Third Hand Smoke is the toxic brew of gases and particles which cling to smokers' hair and clothing and remain deposited on furniture and carpeting long after second-hand smoke has cleared from a room.<br /><br />Under Research Priorities, TRDRP lists as a primary area "Cardiovascular and Cerebrovascular Disease: Mechanisms by which tobacco use promotes development or complications of cardiovascular disease and stroke, e.g., by pathologic effects on vascular function, inflammation, oxidation, thrombosis or metabolism."<br /><br />To examine this program, Google "California TRDRP Request for Proposals for TRDRP Initiative on Third Hand Smoke" and click on "Applications instructions and details of the RFP (pdf)."<br /><br />From the TRDRP Applictions instructions:<br /><br />"1.1 Thirdhand Smoke Exposure and Health Effects: The indoor surfaces and air quality component of this initiative is intended to help create and sustain a new research niche and infrastructure in California that is expected to shed light on several concrete aspects of the public health dangers of thirdhand smoke. The findings from this research may have broad implications in policy enactment in California to prevent human exposure to thirdhand smoke in homes, hotels, apartment buildings, personal vehicles, ...It is anticipated that the research outcomes will contribute to dramatically reducing exposure ... to potential disease-causing toxicants produced from thirdhand smoke."<br /><br />"8. Award Details: The TRDRP has allocated up to $3.75 million over three years for this RFP ..." (Note: CA TRDRP is funded by a state tobacco tax paid by tobacco consumers.)<br /><br />"9. Submission Procedures: All applications in response to this RFP must be submitted online no later than August 16, 2010 ..."<br /><br />In interviews after publication of his 2009 study, Dr. Winickoff said to the BBC: "The dangers of third-hand smoke are very real - when you smoke, toxic particulate matter from tobacco smoke gets into your hair and clothing", and to Scientific American: "Smokers themselves are contaminated ... smokers actually emit toxins." In February 2010 after publication of a Berkley study on thirdhand smoke, co-author and scientist Lara Gundel said, "Nicotine residues will stick to a smoker's skin and clothing and get spread everywhere."<br /><br />In addition to justification to prohibit smoking in any interior where third hand smoke can be deposited, the studies can also be used to prohibit the smoker himself from sharing a vicinity and contaminating the body of an innocent non-smoker. This will physically bar the smoker from employment, rental shelter, shopping and entertainment venues, business and medical offices, and all social intercourse with non-smokers.<br /><br />A potent weapon indeed in the war against tobacco. <br /><br />http://www.theheart.org/article/1089265.doAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-68454290449034778052010-06-28T12:19:59.250+01:002010-06-28T12:19:59.250+01:00http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/25428...http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2542863/postsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-30340527161521254942010-06-28T07:36:39.486+01:002010-06-28T07:36:39.486+01:00That is a glorious find. Are you going to submit a...That is a glorious find. Are you going to submit a proposal? <br /><br />It will be great fun when they trumpet your results saying how evil third hand smoke is and a day later you admit the whole thing was faked.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-69966665922635280472010-06-28T02:32:08.150+01:002010-06-28T02:32:08.150+01:00You mean we wont live to see the water fleas on th...You mean we wont live to see the water fleas on the endangered species list.........This morning I took the wisconsin pounds per trash of each individual and compared it to the weight of a pack of butts.Anyway it worked out that each smoker would have to smoke roughly 1200 cigs a day to meet the daily trash amount of 3.5 pounds just for himself. Just think how many tobacco control sierra club members it would take to clean the waters just of wisconsin........When I think of your examples lastnite in your email of 1100 cleanup folks that recovered only 3-7 butts per hour. We could call this water ready stimulus jobs. Tossing butts for the recovery......... <br />Smokers should help in this recovery effort.......harleyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-22172187086491735702010-06-28T02:13:04.182+01:002010-06-28T02:13:04.182+01:00Harley, one butt per 2 gallons is in the same ball...Harley, one butt per 2 gallons is in the same ballpark as the study I cited using 1/10th butt per liter (which is about 1 butt per 2.6 gallons if my quick head-math is correct.)<br /><br />In any event, something MUST be done or all the water fleas may be dead in just 25 million years! (Assuming of course that all those scientific "laws" stay suspended...)<br /><br /> :)<br />MJMMichael J. McFaddenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12181949578184965482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-62066382860255779382010-06-28T01:41:34.934+01:002010-06-28T01:41:34.934+01:00Mikle I was just trying to do those numbers this m...Mikle I was just trying to do those numbers this morning,I found a web site on that water flea but that site said 2 gallons of water per cig butt. But its like the snail darter the liberal green wacks used to shut down the hartsville nuclear reactor in tenn back in the 70s......I bought a house there back in the 90s and guess what was living and mating in the stream behind my house some 10 miles from the river they said was the only place these snails could live and breed........you got it SNAIL DARTERS.......Oh and al gore the bore was just 12 miles from me back then and well you could ride by his family farm and watch the illegals cropping his baccy........gore still raises tobacco on that farm somewhere around 100,000 pounds but dont expect the local farm agent to tell you anything about gores tobacco farming..its tight lipped where it concerns him locally...<br /> But if he were to run for dog catcher he wouldnt get elected.<br /><br />harleyrider19789Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-13677028427381377992010-06-27T23:54:23.718+01:002010-06-27T23:54:23.718+01:00Astounding!
Well no, actually, it's not anym...Astounding! <br /><br />Well no, actually, it's not anymore, is it?<br /><br />On the bright side, the butts leaking toxins into the earth is going to give us some superb jollies in the next few years. :)Dick Puddlecotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01481866882188932892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-55410616836459789872010-06-27T22:46:29.226+01:002010-06-27T22:46:29.226+01:00Great post Chris! This needs to get out to the pre...Great post Chris! This needs to get out to the press. People in California (I'm on of them) would be furious if they were to become aware of this. When people voted for prop 99 back in 1988, they did so under the presumption that that money was to be raised for the purpose of covering the health costs attributed to society by smokers; they had no idea what the real agenda was then, and they have no idea about what it is now. Many people realize that the anti-smoking legislation has gone way off of the deep end; they just don't know why. The silence in the media has not helped, nor has the lack of investigative journalism with regards to this at many mainstream publications. You Chris, are likely one of the only investigative journalists digging deep into this issue. Thank you. The TRDRP has been operating with virtually no oversight whatsoever. Add to that, the collusion between the TRDRP, pharmaceutical incentives and the corrupt politicians who are supposed to represent all of us (as opposed to some of us). <br /><br />We are living in a time of furloughs and layoffs in California. Everyone seems to be angry these days...the teachers' unions, the police league, librarians, workers from the DMV...the list goes on. There are empty store fronts all over Los Angeles now. People are out of work....the city is trying to declare bankruptcy..violent crime is on the rise in my neighborhood...the state can't balance its budget either....and there's $$$$$$$ for this? Whoa Nelly! If only the people knew...there's be pitchforks down at every city hall and at the footsteps of Sacramento demanding change. Real change.jredheadgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11078082563556309444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-10990905816801842532010-06-27T18:41:11.631+01:002010-06-27T18:41:11.631+01:00Wow, all that money for junk when California is la...Wow, all that money for junk when California is laying off public safety staff. Makes absolutely no sense at all. The state is broke but is embarking on a witch hunt while laying off police and sheriff officers.<br /><br />No maka sense!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14119673643702940998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-29889206315479349092010-06-27T18:36:31.571+01:002010-06-27T18:36:31.571+01:00It was the TRDRP that funded the Enstrom and Kabat...It was the TRDRP that funded the Enstrom and Kabat SHS study. They cut off the funding after seeing the preliminary results, although they claimed at the time that it was not the results but a tight budget that forced their decision. E & K then found a further $70,000 dollars from Big Tobacco to get their study ready for publication. <br />Lucky for TRDRP that they took that decision, otherwise they might have only had $3.68 million for this project.<br /><br />TonyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-16728180189754253662010-06-27T14:33:44.826+01:002010-06-27T14:33:44.826+01:00THE CASE OF THE SNIFFING RECEPTIONIST(at Kimball P...<b>THE CASE OF THE SNIFFING RECEPTIONIST</b>(at Kimball Physics)<br /><br />Imagine you walk into the reception area of a building .<br />The receptionist stands up and begins to sniff you up and down . Where are you? A lunatic asylum? A vetrinary clinic? Dreaming? Some combination of the above? Actually you might be at Kimball Physics, an electronics manufacturer in Wilton, New Hampshire, where smokers are so un-welcome they are sniffed out at the gate .<br /><br />Receptionist Jennifer Walsh of Kimball is charged with applying the sniff test on all employees and visitors to the company . If she catches even a whiff of tobacco smoke on your breath, hair or clothing, she will deny you entrance to the company's offices .<br /><br />Company president Chuck Crawford defended the policy to the Associated Press, insisting that "people can be made ill by amounts of tobacco residues that are below the level of sensitivity the nose can detect ."<br /><br />http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/tid/caz37d00/pdf<br /><br /><br />Chuck Crawford (Kimball Physics), <b>2007 American Lung Association/C. Everett Koop “Unsung Hero” Award Recipient</b><br /><br /><i> Dr. Crawford is tireless in his efforts to make tobacco control everyone's goal. He shares the policy's successes and merits with partners and vendors in hopes of encouraging more businesses to follow in Kimball Physics' footsteps.</i><br /><br />The mentally dysfunctional now receive awards for torturing society with their dysfunction masqueraded as “health promotion”. Courtesy of C. Everett Kook, a rabid antismoker, and the dismembered-body-organ group, a Rockefeller concoction, the ALA.<br /><br />http://www.lungusa.org/get-involved/volunteer/volunteer-of-the-week/chuck-crawford.html<br /><br /><br />Chuck Crawford, a member of the Board of Trustees, <b>Action on Smoking and Health</b>.<br /><br />http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=59768466Anon1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-79790639284607129542010-06-27T14:02:16.606+01:002010-06-27T14:02:16.606+01:00From the Kimball Physics website:
Second: No tob...<b>From the Kimball Physics website:</b><br /><br /><i> Second: No tobacco use is allowed <b>anywhere outside</b> on Kimball Physics grounds (including entry areas, parking lots, picnic areas, grassed areas, fields, and hundreds of acres of woods). No tobacco use is allowed inside any motor vehicle, irrespective of ownership, while located on Kimball Physics grounds.<br /><br />Third: <b>No tobacco-residuals emitting person, article of clothing, or other object</b> is allowed inside any Kimball Physics building. This restriction also applies to <b>anyone or anything emitting characteristic tobacco odors. Anyone who has used a tobacco product within the previous two hours is automatically to be turned away</b>, unless measures have been taken such that <b>residuals-sensitive persons</b> are not exposed. The determining factor, regarding allowable residuals levels and/or exposure durations, is whether anyone is either significantly bothered, or even worse, made ill.<br /><br />…. Conversely (<b>as is widely accepted</b>), if an individual enters an area formerly occupied by a smoker, a contaminated automobile for example, the same effects occur. This sensitivity, of course, explains the need for non-smoking hotel rooms, non-smoking rental cars, tobacco-free taxis, and the like. A surprisingly large fraction of the population is sensitive to tobacco residuals.<br /><br />….. Minor (and not so minor) illnesses which are <b>caused by tobacco residuals</b> include: headaches, stinging eyes, burning or constricting throats, chest congestion, hoarseness, coughing, nose bleeds, sinus problems, stomach pains, ear aches, asthma attacks, etc.</i><br />http://www.kimballphysics.com/about_KPI/visits.htm<br /><br />The policy was instituted in <b>1993</b>.<br /><br />There is no evidence for any of it. It sounds like classical somatization (psychogenically produced physical symptoms), e.g., a <i>nocebo</i> effect. All of the symptoms listed are typical anxiety reactions. And the setup at Kimball only reinforces the dysfunction.Anon1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-18645058329142299842010-06-27T11:11:59.699+01:002010-06-27T11:11:59.699+01:00For anyone interested in the “Business Plot” (fasc...For anyone interested in the “Business Plot” (fascist coup) of 1933/4 in the USA.<br /><br />BBC documentary<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXGUgFXoRu4&NR=1<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGPb6ulVEK0&NR=1<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mav69K2zkgw&NR=1<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvyXuANtSH4&feature=related<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxh4kVnBkFI&feature=related<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxOOgZBXkSs&feature=related<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p5wM5tm4eE&feature=related<br /><br /><br />Apologies for swamping the comments section.Anon1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-16549762750103127082010-06-27T10:59:42.771+01:002010-06-27T10:59:42.771+01:00Even Jarn Banzhaf the ⅓ was a mechanical engineer ...Even Jarn Banzhaf the ⅓ was a mechanical engineer before turning his “talents”(talons?) to Law. :)Anon1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-47905699573493255212010-06-27T10:52:15.011+01:002010-06-27T10:52:15.011+01:00Chris,
I am hoping that you have noticed a pattern...Chris,<br />I am hoping that you have noticed a pattern. Eugenicists/antismokers typically have a materialist background, e.g., engineers, physicists, biologists, zoologists. This is not to say that all those with materialist vocations are eugenicists. However, those that are promoters of eugenics typically have a materialist background and are disturbed minds. Between them they have not a skerrick of psychological insight, least of all into their own considerable mental dysfunction. And in enacting their derangement under the guise of "health promotion" do they promote the same dysfunction in the public at large.<br /><br /><i>Psychologists like Georg Matt, for example?</i><br />Chris,<br />Georg is not a psychologist. Georg is a behaviorist, i.e., a materialist – no psychological aptitude. Not only can Georg not tell that the eugenics/healthist crusade is an assault on psychological health, but his promotion of thirdhand smoke is simply adding to the assault. He probably can’t even tell that he is a pawn in a eugenics network.<br />A destructive trend in academia over the last number of decades not appreciated by many has been the undermining of the discipline of psychology. Psychology departments around the world are dominated by behaviorists. Many have been properly renamed Departments of Behavioral Sciences. Some psychology departments that were once independent realms under the auspices of Arts or Science Faculties have now been absorbed into the Medical Faculty, e.g., Australia. These are now known as “Health Psychology” (i.e., behaviorism). And these are behaviorism specifically aligned to the eugenics-driven medical faculties. This behaviorism concocts the “strategies” of negative and positive operant conditioning, i.e., healthist propaganda, in coercing public compliance with eugenics ideals, e.g., antismoking. This circumstance is not coincidental. It has been orchestrated over the last number of decades to remove potential criticism of healthism as an assault on at least psychological health.Anon1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-21058644905650540022010-06-27T10:35:22.094+01:002010-06-27T10:35:22.094+01:00$ 3.75 Million.....
That's a lot of money to p...$ 3.75 Million.....<br />That's a lot of money to pay for a telephone poll.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07797024943108120410noreply@blogger.com