tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post1006835677484495710..comments2023-10-17T15:56:22.827+01:00Comments on Velvet Glove, Iron Fist: Tobacco Product Directive leaked to the pressChristopher Snowdonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-11668787431694820252012-09-23T13:57:35.140+01:002012-09-23T13:57:35.140+01:00Chris,
where did you get the information that the...Chris,<br /><br />where did you get the information that they are planning to ban e-cigarettes. The article in "Die Welt" does not mention this.Karl Fasbrackehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10413111410093492674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-53618167588301468592012-09-22T18:26:42.048+01:002012-09-22T18:26:42.048+01:00Chris,
I took the liberty to translate your arti...Chris, <br /><br />I took the liberty to translate your article into German and post it on my blog (with proper credits). I hope you don't mind. Otherwise let me know.<br /><br />http://fasbracke.blogspot.de/2012/09/details-der-tabakrichtline.htmlKarl Fasbrackehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10413111410093492674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-70891648435590864642012-09-18T21:03:42.979+01:002012-09-18T21:03:42.979+01:00Comes as no surprise to me. The EU is a totalitari...Comes as no surprise to me. The EU is a totalitarian organization. As such, they want control over every aspect of your life. And control comes from restrictions of personal freedoms. Modredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06297168706349447731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-45579892981363467492012-09-17T13:48:59.312+01:002012-09-17T13:48:59.312+01:00If this proposal ever becomes law, there will be b...If this proposal ever becomes law, there will be by then a couple of million ecig smokers in the UK. Ecigs will, by then, be regarded in the same way as coffee or Red Bull. The ecig industry has a very impressive trade asscoiation, ECITA. Take a look at the website - particularly the letters sent to the Mirror and the Mail. Ecig users are very vocal and well organised. They suffer none of the guilt that many smokers suffer from. 400ml of concentrated ecig liquid (about the size of a can of beans) will last a year. A ban will not work Jonathan Bagleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17331501151709216753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-50231800405461415912012-09-17T11:22:02.128+01:002012-09-17T11:22:02.128+01:00Dear Mr Snowdon
The whole EU project is one of th...Dear Mr Snowdon<br /><br />The whole EU project is one of the largest scams in the world, and proposals like these make it clearer every day to those with more than half a brain cell. Unfortunately it seems that many in this country lack that much and give fulsome support to ever more ridiculous regulation imposed by the Eurocrats via their compliant traitor governments.<br /><br /><i>” ... (mainly gathered from foreign sources as the British media haven't shown any interest).”</i><br /><br />This is so the proposals, when enacted in the UK by our Quisling government, will be claimed as entirely their own.<br /><br />DPDPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17091133543566922745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-38272513738782462882012-09-15T05:37:42.170+01:002012-09-15T05:37:42.170+01:00Some examples of the street-level morons created b...Some examples of the street-level morons created by the ivory-tower morons of Public Health™:<br /><br /><b>Brookline Arrest Log: Anti-Smoking Dirt Thrower<br />Arrested</b><br />http://brookline.patch.com/articles/brookline-arrest-log-sept-7-9<br /><br /><b>Justin Dain Palmer Accused Of Pointing Gun At Pregnant Smoker</b><br />[check out some of the deranged comments]<br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/justin-dain-palmer-pregnant-smoker_n_1882908.htmlJohnBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05165051324276559561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-15521705224071645182012-09-14T18:19:54.432+01:002012-09-14T18:19:54.432+01:00Nothing is sacred from these bastards is it? I hav...Nothing is sacred from these bastards is it? I have recently just switched to e-cigs. <br /><br />They will have to wrestle it from my cold dead hands because I will just buy it in from China if needs be, or learn to make my own juice. It seems that they are trying to suck the life out of us and I'm fucking sick of it. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630667224052555967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-60955702620217513702012-09-14T17:21:44.394+01:002012-09-14T17:21:44.394+01:00Thanks Jay.
Nice find, Dave. The rent-seeking is ...Thanks Jay.<br /><br />Nice find, Dave. The rent-seeking is now very blatant.Christopher Snowdonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15963753745009712865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-90892474044080233152012-09-14T15:28:29.466+01:002012-09-14T15:28:29.466+01:00Novartis lets it all hang out in their public affa...Novartis lets it all hang out in their public affairs web site.<br /><br />"Until recently, efforts by European regulators to reduce smoking were concentrated mainly on the introduction of 'smoke free' legislation which prohibits smoking in certain environments. Novartis believes that greater public health benefits could be achieved through a policy of smoking cessation, coupled with increased duty on tobacco.<br /><br />Novartis is campaigning to encourage policies to complement non-smoking environments with smoking cessation, with nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) as an important component of an EU strategy on tobacco control.<br /><br />Together with various NGOs, we helped to foster a 'Smoke Free Partnership.' Our aim is to foster a policy and legislative environment which leads to better public health through strong tobacco control measures and increased availability of NRT in line with the WHO Framework Convention on Tobacco Control."<br /><br />http://164.109.68.206/business-conduct/lobbying/public-policy.shtml<br /><br />This company in Poland openly accuses Big Pharma of corruption.<br /><br /><br />http://www.pmrconsulting.com/userfiles/file/wp/CONSULTING_-_Pharmaceutical_lobbying_03.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-48443654726852936242012-09-14T15:15:17.966+01:002012-09-14T15:15:17.966+01:00Some of these bansturbator types have told me that...Some of these bansturbator types have told me that they want to save the lives of people who haven't been born yet.<br /><br />They think that they will be revered by the hundreds of billions of people who are yet to live and that this outweighs any harm done to the currently living.Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03655694351271193881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-235967536869611952012-09-14T15:14:24.480+01:002012-09-14T15:14:24.480+01:00It was never about health in the first place (as w...It was never about health in the first place (as we all know), the difference now is that they're starting to no longer feel the need to pretend that it is/was.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08873645995963095893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-26096587851420723112012-09-14T15:06:00.752+01:002012-09-14T15:06:00.752+01:00The single brand restriction is not only pointless...The single brand restriction is not only pointless but also dangerous. I don't care what junk studies they have produced to say otherwise, but I recently switched from Light Cigarettes to "Super-Lights" (instead of 7mg tar, they have 1mg tar and instead of 0.7mg nicotine they have 0.1mg). Since doing so my runs (I'm training for a half marathon) have jumped from a 4 mile plateau to my being able to do 10 miles. In addition, my average heart rate when running has dropped 10 beats per minute and my resting heart rate is now in the high 50s (dropped 10 bpm since switching). PLUS, I still get to smoke and now my taste buds have adapted, I enjoy them as much as any other fag. Win-win!<br /><br />Yet this new restriction will possibly limit my access to these fags - most shops will only stock the normals or the lights - super-lights are not a big seller. So what now? Am I supposed to switch back to stronger fags?<br /><br />Similarly, the restriction on e-cigs and smokeless tobacco.... What is the alternative? Smoking full strength cigarettes? In what bizarro-world does any of this make any sort of sense from a public health/harm reduction point of view?<br /><br />James Burrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17887499076992310207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3585028625507474093.post-29715274646917039502012-09-14T14:16:22.335+01:002012-09-14T14:16:22.335+01:00Chris, you've omitted an "f" for the...Chris, you've omitted an "f" for the word "for" in that last sentence. <br /><br />Anyway, is there any place in the world left for consumers of tobacco products to be free from special interests and nannying governments? Because I'd like to move there.Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404807971134554522noreply@blogger.com